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As others have commented, folks should remember that those Cadets that you give a hard time to will in a short time become those officers that are in charge of writing your NCOERs never mind the fact that they also will be your leaders when deployed in a combat zone ( I served in the 1st Cav Div during Desert Shield and Storm), in other words garbage in equals garbage out. Command Sergeant Major: CSM Scott Drewes: The West Point Band (also known as the U.S. Military Academy Band or USMA Band) is the U.S. Army's oldest active band and the oldest unit at the United States Military Academy, traces its roots to the American Revolutionary War. We're also the one demographic that gives the socialist/communists nightmares because they know they can't take us head on in any manner so they go through the younger people to reach their aims. Knights lifted their helmet to recognize they friends from enemy. Thanks for your disgustingly pointless article. . Mr. Erik D. Mitchell assumed the position of Deputy to the Garrison Commander, USAG West Point (IMCOM Directorate - Training), on December 20, 2020. U.S. ARMY INSTALLATION MANAGEMENT COMMAND, "We Are the Army's Home - I was an enlisted man and my rank at the time of my discharge in the late Summer of 1989 was Sergeant E5. Podcast While it might be fun to haze the new margarine bar (he hasnt even worked his way up to butter bar yet), is that really the impression you want him taking with you when he gets commissioned and reports to his first unit? Cadet Physical Program requirements still remain a priority April 1, 2020. Too many Cadets are treated like children by unprofessional NCOs who fail to realize that they are only alienating their future rather and or senior rather. Her accolades include a Grammy Award for "Best Engineered Album - Classical," engineering and mastering credits on multiple Grammy-nominated albums, an "Award of Excellence" from the Audio Engineering High Resolution Recording Competition, and a Downbeat Award for "Best Engineering for a Live Recording." They receive paygrade of ~E-5 however they hold a higher position. We are all us. I was one of Cohens blue to gold mustangs in the 90s. Simple professionalism is another, Respect the service, respect the service member. Cadet you are not a cadet when in you ng or reserve unit. In the 80s I was an instructor at the ANCOC Leadership School. The Modern War Institute does not screen articles to fit a particular editorial agenda, nor endorse or advocate material that is published. So there is definitely some need to define regularly assigned. Cadets salute one another and it is initiated according to cadet rank. Long story short: Years of hands-on experience trumps reading an instruction manual, This applies in every situation and every single time. No, I always salute them and treat them as officers, and I make sure everyone else does too, he replied in total sincerity. We get people whose ideals are from left field and seem to think the Army is their play ground. So as indicated by mil/regs a 17 year old snot nosed cadet is indeed an enlisted social/moral/intellectual/ and just plain all around great american hero. Oops! When I contracted under the SMP I was administratively promoted to the rank and pay grade of E-5 ( I had served two years previously in the Army Reserve as a junior enlisted 11B). Directorate of Public Works, n Director, RDT&E Division Port Hueneme, CA Combined Forces Special Operations Component Command, n Deputy Division Chief, Enduring Sites Division Baghdad, Iraq Your email address will not be published. Serving the Rugged Professional", Survivor Outreach Services | Total Army Sponsorship | Safety, Human Resources | Civilian Expeditionary Workforce, U.S. Army Environmental Command | Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy & Environment, HOSPITAL - Keller Army Community Hospital, Military Police and Religous Support Personnel, U.S Army MEDDAC- Keller Army Community Hospital, U.S Army DENTAC- West Point Dental Activity, United States Military Academy at West Point, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy & Environment. I did 24 years in the ARMY and have been led by West Pointers! Almost, like her husband, an officer and a lady. He also volunteers with local community organizations such as Higher Ground Men's Group, Men of St. Joseph, and the Most Holy Trinity Catholic Choir. *Back to the story: At first, I let things go and decided someone had to be tough on these kids, but after a while, I couldn't let it roll on. Scotts writing focuses largely on veterans issues, but he is also a big proponent of Constitutional rights and has a deep interest in politics. But Im sure he felt stung just a little bit. And if for one second you think any Infantrymen will ever do something that violates our Constitutional form of government, you've made the worst assumption of your young life. It should be. While Deployed with the Corps in support of Operation Inherent Resolve, he also assumed duties as the Combined Joint Task Force (OIR) J-3 Sergeant Major. Enough of my rant! They clearly outrank privates and are often assigned to leadership roles, but they aren't yet commissioned. WEST POINT, NY (Oct. 14, 2016) - The U.S. Army and the U.S . Medical students are not in this hierarchy at all except they answer to doctors and do only what a doctor tells them to, under that doctors supervision. Yet, still burdened with the unsocial characteristic of the enlisted class. CSM Robert T. Craven hails from Swords, Louisiana and enlisted in the U.S. Army in March 1995. the Armed Forces of the United States (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard), the commissioned corps Scott welcomes story ideas and feedback on his articles, and can be reached at, ts summertime, and for many cadets in the Armys ROTC programs and at West Point, that means . We had a young know it all LT around the COMS tent he starts looking around and I see him messing with the ground strap the future leader of our troops disconnected it. Superior to a mere cunning, lazy enlisted man. Mr. Mitchell began his professional career in 1994, graduating of the United States Air Force Academy where he was a football letterman. Command Sergeant Major Fraser has a daughter, Talia. Without these people, "How do you become "ELite"! This would be wiser than placing a WP Year 1 cadet in charge of it. Somewhat surprised by this, and thinking back to my own experiences in CTLT, I asked why he felt that way. I do not cater to idiots and refuse to acknowledge someone that does not even respect the rank they expect their subordinates to respect. Then again for the same categories who were on rear detachment duties! West Point grads are elite and you know it, Ask any enlisted person and they will tell you that westpointers are arrogant and on need of a lot of training. I can't speak for the Air Force, but the Navy certainly does. CTLT happens in all kinds of units, both in the US and OCONUS. Through conversations, we get better LT's coming out of ROTC or NCO's newly converted to O grade.. Wonder if each Military Academy Of other branches has the same rule/regulation authority.??? The first three months were preflight training at Lackland AFB where we were taught basic military skills such as customs and courtesies, UCMJ, drill, Air Force history, parachute training, confidence course, and firearms training. CSM Craven has also earned the German, Chilean, and Australian Parachutist badges and is a member of the Prestigious Sergeant Audie Murphy Club. Of course, there is another reason to treat West Point and ROTC cadets with respect: they are not going to be cadets forever. My NCOs treated me with respect while I was a midshipman, but taught me what it meant. Cadets are still learning and everyone in the unit should help mentor them and show the value of NCOs. Pilot and navigator cadets went to different flight schools. I was a 13B20-Gunner. Her education includes a Bachelor of Science in Music Engineering Technology from the University of Miami in Coral Gables, Florida, and a Master of Arts in Management and Leadership from Webster University in St. Louis, Missouri. Command Sergeant Major Michel R. Fraser was born in Wilmington, North Carolina and raised in Conway, South Carolina. So I think he had it right. Sergeant Major Schlegel earned his Black Belt in Lean Six Sigma (Process Improvement) in 2016, and is actively involved in building the process improvement community at West Point. While being true you must also realize there is a need for Commissioned Officers as well as Non Commissioned Officers. So our government invested thousands on a lying, dishonest, ill-informed, and immature man child to lead others. Adept been officially assigned a position in the chain of command? In those days once a month you went before the pay officer and received your pay in cash. Mark C. Quander Brigadier General , US Army 79th Commandant of Cadets Dont demand respect earn it. We only go to attention for officers. Get off your high horse. I wore the Cadet rank insignia of 2LT. Army command policy is clear the definition of terms. WEST POINT, N.Y. - The chain of command for the U.S. The cadet would still have to be "Regularly Assigned". I think not. *This post originally appeard The Havok Journal * U.S. Army photo by: Mike Strasser/ USMA Public Affairs I let crap roll off of my back, but when I attended Fort Knox this last summer there were way too many NCOs who had a big chip on their shoulder. In 2003 we never went slower than 55, usually 60 MPH and we never lost anyone. They always forgot to take the safety bail/pin out of the RPG fuze and the round would just bounce off our Bradleys, lol. You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders and as such know who and where you are able to receive the BEST mentorship and hands on experience. The definition is enhanced further by stating Soldiers "present for duty." America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Mr. Erik D. Mitchell assumed the position of Deputy to the Garrison Commander, USAG West Point (IMCOM Directorate. If cadets, during this valuable leadership experience, are not given the chance to act as lieutenants and acting platoon leaders, then the whole CLTC program should be scrapped. Staff Sergeant Taylor is an accomplished composer whose works have been internationally published and performed. He previously served as the NCOIC of supply at the U.S. Army School of Music. They assume command until relieved by proper authority except as provided in 2-8c. I mean, that certainly seemed to be the case at Airborne School back in the day. Other notable assignments include working within the 2/320, United States Military Academy Preparatory School, Simon Center for the Professional Military Ethic. Im a Senior WO and I can personally attest to the height of arrogance the NCO Corps exercises today. The Air Force Aviation Cadet program was fazed out during the mid 1960's as the Air Force Academy became the primary source of flight rated officers. The Army is always evolving but power bitches have always been around, we just don't frag them as we used to. It was advanced pay so to speak. The only regularly assigned cadets are in the national guard or reserves as a SMP Cadet. Imagine that, good ol Top didnt read the entire regulation, only the part that suited his narrativeshocked. Joseph John Quichocho, 1SG E-8 RETIRED US ARMY. Paras 2-9 and 2-10, AR 600-20 further reinforce Scott Faiths important points here. This is more or less the Armys summer intern program, where young future officers get hands-on experience as a kind of third lieutenant, under the tutelage of a commissioned officer for three or four weeks. Command Sergeant Major Fraser military and civilian education include: Basic Leader Course, Advanced Leaders Course, Senior Leaders Course, US Army Drill Sergeant Academy, First Sergeant Course, United States Army Sergeants Major Academy, Garrison Pre-Command Course, Battalion Pre-Command Course, Command Sergeant Major Development Program, Master Resilience Training, HR Plans and Operations Course, Sexual Harassment and Sexual Assault Course, Battle Staff Course, Postal Supervisor, Postal Operations Course, Modern Army Combative Level I and II, Total Army Instructor Course, Equal Opportunity Leader Course, and Combat Lifesaver Course. Normal members of the medical team fall within a strict hierarchy (just like rank). For example, if a division headquarters and headquarters company commander is temporarily absent, the executive officer as the senior regularly assigned Army Soldier who performs duties within the headquarters company would assume command and not the division commander. In 2012, he was awarded a Master of Public Administration from John Jay College in New York, New York, with a concentration in human resources management, and is a member of the Adjutant General Corps Regimental Association. Payback is one reason to avoid it. So glad I longer serve. Upon the successful completion of flight school cadets received their flight wings and were commissioned as second lieutenants and incured an additional four year service commitment. When I was a 2LT, I always took the fact that Vietnam vets 4-10 years older than I was were saluting me as an obligation to do my best to earn that salute. He also volunteers with local community organizations such as Higher Ground Men's Group, Men of St. Joseph, and the Most Holy Trinity Catholic Choir. But only a complete cadidiot would get his or her cadet rank confused with an NCO's authority and influence. 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Oh please. -If you are a Soldier and you are still carrying around the trash attitude of the "good ole' days", it is most likely time for you to go. Practice ought to comport with policy. NCOs are the backbone of the Army and run the Army day to day (as opposed to commanding it). But having learned this, it made me wonder when this would actually matter in any meaningful way. As that was a long time ago, my memories of the experience were that it was the best and the worst of both worlds. Mr. Mitchell is married to his wife Jill and has three children, Connor, Fisher and Sophia. Cadets should know that they must earn respect. A little ancient cadet history for anyone interested. Both preflight and flight school were run under the traditional cadet model of upperclass and lowerclass where upperclassmen were responsible for much of the military training and discipline of the lowerclassmen. My CWO put him in his place and ask what would this cadet' commanding officer would think of his conduct and told him to leave. Some points I wanted to make sure I hit are: -No, you don't have to call them sir/ma'am or salute them, but you absolutely should show them the respect you would like to receive. Mainly because I do belive the new generation of officers are a bunch of participation trophy recieving, never held accountable, privileged, idiots who can't handle that all that academy training and degree mean jack shit but to stroke their since of superiority over others. Youre right, Sergeant, a West Point cadet DOES outrank you. He recently earned the Professional in Human Resources Certification through the Human Resources Certification Institute. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. HUGE US Army Sergeants Major Academy USASMA Ft Bliss Military Challenge Coin 6" Sponsored . Great investment. Technically. CSM Craven has a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice from Colorado Technical University and a Master of Science in Management from Excelsior College. I learned something that day. I don't mean to take anything away from the Point but my first platoon leader was the finest officer I ever served under. The U.S. Army, alerted that the command sergeant major of U.S. Military Academy, West Point reportedly violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) by tweeting criticism of former President Donald Trump and also targeted Republican Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan has commenced an investigation. I bet they could not even remember my name. Good Grunts care less for their next promotion beyond making sure our records are correct. I spent 3 years as a MSG and never saluted a cadet. So there I was no shot, at my first unit on JBLM, WA as a 2LT and I thought that based on what I was taught that you salute all superior officers. The regulations can only go so far in some jobs and situations in our Army and beyond that you need to be resourceful or have friends who are. The supervising doctor might ask the medical student to do certain things a doctor would normally do (recommend a prescription, put in sutures, read test or x-ray results), but only with direct physician supervision. Or a sergeant major for that matter. So cadets are included in the definition. We can feel confident we did our hob helping train a. Life 101. NCO's look at big picture constantly, good officers are aware of this and cultivate this. Maj. Michael A. Crosby, left, bears the colors of Army Futures Command, as General Mark Milley, 23rd Secretary of the Army Mark Esper, and General John M. Murray unfurl the colors on 24 August 2018, in Austin, Texas A command sergeant major ( CSM) is a non-commissioned rank and position of office in the United States Army. IMCOM Directorate - Training, n Deputy/Director Fort Bragg, NC Coming straight out of a college (any college) prepares you for exactly nothing. Now, based on personal experience, I cannot say I was comfortable at all with the USMA grad who came into Iraq (2004-06). 354th Civil Engineering Squadron, n USAF Civil Engineering Officer Grand Forks AFB, ND One of these ignorant academy types was my battalion XO at Fort Ord. Very interesting. I wondered about it at the time and this reminded me of it, is this more of like a courtesy thing where Warrants dont salute each other and shake hands instead? I found myself going toe to toe with these junior NCOs and enlisted, but not to destroy their souls (as the NCO in me wanted to do so badly) but to talk to them and help them understand that if you treat these cadets like crap, it will be returned 10 fold in a year when they commission, hate NCOs, and are their raters. She has earned a Bachelor Professional Studies - Business and Management and a Master of Science in Management - Human Resources Management both from Excelsior College. It would have sent enough juice thru the not yet graduate nor commissioned idiots heart to stop. How dare enlisted swine preside over a command position? Why hasn't a single one of you been taught that humility, respect and honor flows both ways but in different fashions? (Still, there is no need to salute them. This regulation shows that cadets rank after commissioned and warrant officers, but before NCOs. Secondly, just because of this outdated regulation (considering no cadets are assigned to any deployed units) requires no customs or courtesy obligation from enlisted soldiers or officers. One might argue that a cadet who is SMP, simultaneous membership program, would be regularly assigned. If you run a command climate where you relegate your NCOs to small picture things, you will be a small picture unit and your good NCOs will find their way out of your unit and you will be left with small picture, tunnel vision type folks such as those that you describe. Corps of Cadets has been announced and includes a strong group of varsity athletes. Nurses don't outrank med students or vice-versa. We want to mold a new Officer to become a great leader we can always remember but there's a limit to what we're willing to do. You see there is a important reason that the strap be properly secured to the six foot ground rod driven into the ground. Officers and NCO's must realize alike that, they way you treat your future Officers (NCO's case) and the way you treat your subordinates (Officers case) will dictate how the military can and will be run in the future. (Contracted ROTC cadets are MS III and MS IV, overwhelmingly and predominantly.) Sometimes, XO is a way of calling the commander or a head of a department in the organization. Sometimes cadets are relegated to less-meaningful duties, or endure some modicum of hazing as part of the experience. Scotts writing focuses largely on veterans issues, but he is also a big proponent of Constitutional rights and has a deep interest in politics. When I was an O-3, I regularly saluted SGM's first depending on who saw whom first and the nature of the encounter. Working as a deputy or person number 2 is always a difficult task. Even after more than twenty years in uniform, it still surprises me what I dont know about my own profession, and what I still have to learn from my NCOs. Speed is your friend in a convoy, never drive slower than the rest of the civilian traffic, that way when a bad guy is trying to catch up to your convoy, he sticks out big time and the rear vehicle can easily engage him. He has developed the course SS493 Music & Influence, which he teaches in the Department of Social Sciences. When an NCO saluted me, I didn't just wave my hand at my cover to dismiss the salute, but "locked up" a little myself, acknowledged him with eye contact, and responded to any greeting. Boy if it wasn't entertainment at its best. And yes the officer corps views your spouse as just a "wife.". but after I had earned my keep so to speak he spent a lot of time teaching and mentoring this Dot head and when I was commissioned he took time off from his civilian job to come to the commissioning ceremony to congratulate me. I respect ALL Personnel of the US ARMED FORCES and Civilians appointed over me. I am a cadet and am military police and drill with them as well. She has also worked as a freelance designer for local musicians and events. As a mom of a cadet thank you! The Army has launched an investigation after the unmasking of a semi-anonymous Twitter account the command sergeant major of U.S. Military Academy, West Point, allegedly used to criticize elected officials and former President Donald Trump, an Army official confirmed to the Daily Caller. No salute. Master Sergeant Carla Loy Song became a member of the West Point Band in 2007. Tell the NCO's that you don't want to seem like a dick that you're being so picky on things, you're just building trust so later you know who's good to go and what each of our strengths are and that goes for the young LT as well (that's called humility and the men will understand because it's fair). Because according to the Army, they outrank me, sir.. Somehow, the memo of shifting demographics of new Soldiers within the Infantry never reached West Point so there's a huge disconnect in reality. Is the cadet attached or assigned a leadership position? So this cadet would already be embedded with the staff or command team or shadowing the Platoon Leader, and would most likely have some, albeit limited prior service. Cadets are not commissioned nor do they possess a warrant. In July 2001, after graduation from high school, Perez entered the United States Military Academy at West Point. United States Forces Iraq (USF-I), J-7, n Chief, Engineering Plans and Services Yuma, AZ Some of the comments left in this thread have really let me down. And taken that way. Nobody reads your comments past the first four lines. Look at any Command where a COL thru Gen and you will see a whole lot of Soldiers both Officers and NCOs running and doing everything to make that command function! Providing innovative solutions and discoveries through international collaborations with leading academic departments, research centers, and industry. He earned his Bachelor of Music in trumpet performance and music education from Ithaca College in Ithaca, New York. Let me explain: Its summertime, and for many cadets in the Armys ROTC programs and at West Point, that means Cadet Troop Leader Training or CTLT. The ones that get emotional about my post will reply as expected and miss the lesson altogether because they've been hard wired to respond that way. Master Sergeant Brandie Lane of Columbia, South Carolina, joined the West Point Band in October of 2010. She earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts in graphic design from the School of Visual Arts in New York City. Tired of all the "barracks lawyers" looking for some sort of designated, assigned, or "official" trappings of respect; absent the need to EARN that respect. My first platoon leader was OCS, my other two were USMA. Ask any SJA. Don't assume a damn thing, if a young NCO or Soldier tells you he "thinks" the vehicle is ready or has a full tank of fuel, hand him a long stick, send him back to the Motor Pool, have him put the stick into the fuel tank and bring back said stick with fuel on it, that way both of you will now KNOW that the vehicle is fueled. The smart ones find a good NCO to mentor them. Before anyone attacks me, I am a prior Army SSG who is now a MSIV Cadet (Active duty and Branched). Command Sergeant Major Glidewell entered the United States Army in July 1981, and completed Basic Training at Fort Jackson, SC. Before assuming responsibility, Coffey was the command sergeant major for the 3rd Infantry Division at Fort Stewart, Georgia. . Commander Navy Region Europe, Southwest Asia, Africa, n Senior Advisor, Installation Management Kabul, Afghanistan I was assigned to the 25th ID in 1972. Cream only. For some reason a lot of angry major S3 types fall into this category. I respected his rank and expertise, but I detested him otherwise. No Salute should be required or rendered. No idea if it is being taught now at BNCOC or ANCOC. And I declined two Bronze Stars because some senior Officer decided to dispense them for every Officer and Senior NCO in theater! entitled to the salute.". My Drill Sargeant after our last 12 mile road, reminded all of us that until the graduation ceremony and recite the enlistment oath only the will we officially be soldiers. Is a cadet a regularly assigned Army Soldier? I was surprised at the gate when I was saluted by the gate personnel. Other notable assignments include working within the 2/320th Field Artillery Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, serving as the Artillery Command Sergeant Major, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Georgia, and serving as the Corps G-3 Fires Sergeant Major XVIII Airborne Corps Headquarters at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. The cadet never will outrank a sergeant first class, master sergeant first sergeant sergeant major etc. Technically. After graduating from high school, they both felt called to enlist, and became clerks. The rank of a cadet is for protocol issues alone such as where to stand in a receiving line or where to sit at a formal dinner. I never saluted another LT after that as an LT. She graduated from Conway High School in 1989. Anyway. Required fields are marked *. No matter what route an O receives his commission by, he will regard his SNCOs and NCOs who trained him with the utmost honor and respect. So let me get this straight a probably well connect cadet who memorize info given to them as well as staying nice and tidy, as yet to graduate or earn a degree yet some how thinks that they are officers. I retired ten years ago as an 11B SNCO with 26 years in service and a star on my CIB. As an humorous aside, earlier I mentioned that the junior officers in my reserve unit treated cadets as little more than errand boys. The Cadet wr had wrote all of us NCOs that trained him, some. The invested money for the cadet wasted. The two year enlistment term allowed for cadets who had to temporarily halt training because of illness or injury. They dont commission until CW2 but I guess they dont really count as Officers either. So yes, a West Point cadet DOES outrank a sergeant. The platoon sergeant major, and his cavalry counterpart, the troop sergeant major, were part of a project giving experienced non-commissioned officers command of units ( platoons and troops) formerly reserved for commissioned officers. This gives cadets going into their final years of pre-commissioning training the opportunity to experience life in an active duty unit. Command Sergeant Major Michel R. Fraser was born in Wilmington, North Carolina and raised in Conway, South Carolina. 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